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Posted: 02 Oct 2016 at 3:39pm

If we look at a white base with a 50g per litre base:

Whole milk            1L
Cream 35%       150g-200g
Sugar.                 230-250g
Base 50.                    50g

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Posted: 13 Sep 2016 at 2:42am

Hi Lee,

Thankyou very much for taking the time to read and respond to my questions about creating my own white base.

Firstly to answer your questions,

I have a 60lt Batch pasteurizer

I have flavour always cold

My Display freezer is currently set to -13.5 Celsius

In my display freezer I currently have 4 Sorbettos, But it is winter here and I plan to increase them to around 8 as summer approaches.

Apologies for the longevity comment, I meant to convey the fact that i do not deep freeze my Gelato for weeks on , as i promote the fact that it is made daily.

I could always start with a 50 Base as you recommended, but ill see what you have to say.

Kind Regards

Anthony

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Posted: 12 Sep 2016 at 5:53pm

Hi Anthony

It’s not a bad thing to get your business off the ground using a 100 base. It helps you create a consistent product. However the time will always come to move onto something more individual and maybe save you a few dollars too.

I would be suggesting you move to a 50 base (50 gms per Litre of milk) or maybe even a 15gms per litre of milk type base. But before we look at that:

What type of equipment do you use: 3-in-1 or batch pasteuriser?

Do you flavour hot/cold?

What temperature do you display then at?

Do you have Sorbets beside these, and if so how are these made at the moment?

I'm not sure what 'tricking the base' is all about but let’s see if we can deliver the new recipe with no detrimental effect on the Gelato/ Ice cream.

PS; longevity of your mix/gelato is essential as it’s the 'marker' of a perfect balanced product.

Lee Williams at the Gelato-Artisan Academy Cornwall UK

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Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 5:05am

Hello, I have recently found this forum and think it is terrific.

I have recently opened a Gelato shop in Australia , and am currently using a 100 Base from a Gelato ingredients supplier.

I have thought it must be cheaper to make my own bases, since that I have access to most of the ingredients listed on the commercial base bag, especially the first few, including Dextrose, SMP, and glucose powder, I am sure all I really need is the stabilizers and Emulsifiers.

I make the Gelato fresh daily, ideally used within 2 days, so long term lasting quality is not so important.

Can anybody out there suggest what to use for the missing ingredients( most likely a product from a gelato ingredients supplier that combines the emulsifiers and stabilizers in one, with i assume, a 5g/kg dosage,

Clearly the ingredients supplier would want to try and sell me the 100 Base, so they are not the ones to ask.

I have pasteurizer, so heat treatment and aging is not an issue.

I am familiar with "tricking the base' to allow for more solid inclusions, and certain flavors etc.

I think i have covered it all, but more than happy to clarify anything if needed.

Regards

Anthony

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	If we look at a white base with a 50g per litre base: Whole milk 1L Cream 35% 150g-200g Sugar. 230-250g Base 50. 50g Hope this helps

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	Hi Lee, Thankyou very much for taking the time to read and respond to my questions about creating my own white base. Firstly to answer your questions, I have a 60lt Batch pasteurizer I have flavour always cold My Display freezer is currently set to -13.5 Celsius In my display freezer I currently have 4 Sorbettos, But it is winter here and I plan to increase them to around 8 as summer approaches. Apologies for the longevity comment, I meant to convey the fact that i do not deep freeze my Gelato for weeks on , as i promote the fact that it is made daily. I could always start with a 50 Base as you recommended, but ill see what you have to say. Kind Regards Anthony

Gelato-Artisan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 12 Sep 2016 Location: U.K. Status: Offline Points: 5	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gelato-Artisan Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Sep 2016 at 5:53pm
	Hi Anthony It’s not a bad thing to get your business off the ground using a 100 base. It helps you create a consistent product. However the time will always come to move onto something more individual and maybe save you a few dollars too. I would be suggesting you move to a 50 base (50 gms per Litre of milk) or maybe even a 15gms per litre of milk type base. But before we look at that: What type of equipment do you use: 3-in-1 or batch pasteuriser? Do you flavour hot/cold? What temperature do you display then at? Do you have Sorbets beside these, and if so how are these made at the moment? I'm not sure what 'tricking the base' is all about but let’s see if we can deliver the new recipe with no detrimental effect on the Gelato/ Ice cream. PS; longevity of your mix/gelato is essential as it’s the 'marker' of a perfect balanced product. Lee Williams at the Gelato-Artisan Academy Cornwall UK

AnthonyR Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Newbie Joined: 11 Sep 2016 Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote AnthonyR Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Sep 2016 at 5:05am
	Hello, I have recently found this forum and think it is terrific. I have recently opened a Gelato shop in Australia , and am currently using a 100 Base from a Gelato ingredients supplier. I have thought it must be cheaper to make my own bases, since that I have access to most of the ingredients listed on the commercial base bag, especially the first few, including Dextrose, SMP, and glucose powder, I am sure all I really need is the stabilizers and Emulsifiers. I make the Gelato fresh daily, ideally used within 2 days, so long term lasting quality is not so important. Can anybody out there suggest what to use for the missing ingredients( most likely a product from a gelato ingredients supplier that combines the emulsifiers and stabilizers in one, with i assume, a 5g/kg dosage, Clearly the ingredients supplier would want to try and sell me the 100 Base, so they are not the ones to ask. I have pasteurizer, so heat treatment and aging is not an issue. I am familiar with "tricking the base' to allow for more solid inclusions, and certain flavors etc. I think i have covered it all, but more than happy to clarify anything if needed. Regards Anthony